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psmith85

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Oct 14 16 9:23 AM

I uploaded it again and this time the SME copyright oddly did not show up, so it's down to 4 issues.

As you can see it is only blocked in Germany (assuming it has something to do with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany): https://postimg.org/image/cqdjxcuav/

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Northbert

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Oct 15 16 4:39 AM

Apparently the info about changing the pitch by at least 10% to avoid YT copyright detection is outdated and was valid until some years ago. Changing the pitch just doesn't seem to do the trick anymore. So based on your newly supplied info about your recent upload attempt I altered also following durations:

18:20 - 18:55
27:16 - 27:54
09:27 - 09:46

So I have altered now in total:

05:10 - 10:56
16:07 - 17:11
18:20 - 18:55
22:50 - 23:36
27:16 - 27:54
28:56 - 31:51
34:06 - 36:30
36:40 - 38:07

And this time I not only changed pitch, but also added a Hall(Echo)-effect, a Tremolo-effect using sawtooth and a wahwah-effect, so maybe we can avoid detection now, although it may not sound very pretty at times:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/609718/911taboo-genghis6199-HQ-rip_distorted_audio_new.avi

In case SleepingApples wants to try the altered audio for his ITA-Sub version, here is the link:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/609720/911taboo_720p_resize_hall_tremolo_wahwah_pitch_new.mp3

For changing pitch and applying the other effects I used the very good and free software Audacity. For the video-related stuff (changing format, adding subtitles) I used Avidemux.

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psmith85

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Oct 17 16 9:59 AM

To be honest, that whirring effect makes it unlistenable to me. I'd rather just stick with what's there. My version's currently not flagged for the SME issue that has been the basis for past takedowns. If any issues arise related to that it would be worth modifying the 30 seconds or so of that song that are still in question, but if the other effects are the only route for the rest of the copyright issues then it would probably just be best to mute it altogether and link to a non-Youtube hosting service. The key is to find a reliable alternative platform. There's been one up on dailymotion for a while but they've been shown in the past to be compromised, as has Vimeo.

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Oct 17 16 2:08 PM

I uploaded a copy to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/911taboo. As of now it doesn't appear to be streamable, but the entry is still being updated so maybe that will change. I'll keep on the lookout for a good alternative streaming site in case it gets removed from Youtube again. Thanks again for all the work on your end so far with the audio and translating. Not that you won't make other great contributions in the future, just wanted to say thanks for the additional work on the audio. The current version on my channel may well stay up, and TPS's should stay up indefinitely. If it doesn't, a silent version linked to a working video off-Youtube really isn't that bad a result. People can still like the video on Youtube, comment below, etc. I'm just glad you were able to keep the high-def version from being memory-holed. Spanish version should be up soon. I like your formatting concept for the German version assuming the upper left portion is still pretty large.

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Oct 17 16 2:57 PM

Came across some interesting info regarding genghis6199. He was calling out Shack as a fraud back in 2008 for faking video evidence (there are a bunch of other videos with different examples):



Also found a pretty high-def 'draft version' of 911 Taboo from 2007. The intro video is different and some of the soundtrack is different. Will check out the rest to see if there's any new material:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec9_1196310418&comments=1

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Northbert

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Oct 18 16 1:30 AM

The version you uploaded now to archive.org is streamable for me in DVD-HQrip quality, so that seems to be working for now.

My formatting concept for adding german subs turned out to be pretty pretty, you can watch it here, it has the same audio like the version you uploaded to your YT-account with the changed pitch:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/608727/911taboo-720p_german_sub_audio_pitched.avi

And yes, I remember that 'uheardmebitch' was one of the aliases used by genghis back then in 2008, when he called out SimonShack for tempering with video evidence. In 2012 Shack was called out by PhilJayhan because his brother was Formula 1 racing with BinLadin Sponsors in the 70ies or 80ies:
http://letsrollforums.com//simon-shack-maker-sept-t28060.html

//edit: in case somebody can use the aegisub-file for doing more subtitled version like this spanish one, here is my .ass file:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/610610/911taboo.ass

Just load the video in aegisub and then this ASS-file, all the timing and positioning is preset for the german subtitles, one just have to exchange the german texts with e.g. spanish ones...

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psmith85

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Oct 19 16 6:18 AM

Thanks again, I think it looks really good and this will make it possible to plug in Spanish easily. I went ahead and tried to upload the German-subtitled version just to see what would happen. Continued problems with copyright. This time there were 4 issues (three UMG, one WMG), two of which were causing it to be blocked in Germany alone (DJ Shadow and Patsy Cline. The DJ Shadow song was flagged at around 9:15-9:45 and Patsy Cline from about 29:50-31:50. I chose remove audio and planned to link to a download in the description.

Then it said that the editing failed and that the segments in question could not be removed. Then a few minutes later I got an email saying that the SME copyright was now an issue (27:16-27:54). To repeat, there was no claim at all from SME initially. And the time segments in questions have changed and it now says 5:14-7:18 DJ Shadow is an issue.

I tried to remove audio for all the segments that have issues and link to off-Youtube streaming or download link, but it says that it's still processing.

If it doesn't work, can you upload a muted version (or maybe leave the first 5 minutes just so people can get a taste of the movie? or mute for all five songs? It's kind of six of one, half dozen of other, though I think it would be good to at least do the first option) and then I'll put link to outside of site?

Here are screenshots from my end:
https://postimg.org/image/hfforxmnz/
https://postimg.org/image/k1jpylghx/
https://postimg.org/image/y6yj5odg5/
https://postimg.org/image/ob5aymubj/

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Northbert

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Oct 19 16 9:58 AM

I now completely muted the sections in question and added additional subtitle that this particular section was muted because of copyright claims and that the viewer should look in the video description for a link to the full version.

Here is the Aegisub-file with the added subtitles for the mute sections:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/610868/911taboo_mute.ass

Here is the german sub version with muted audio:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/610874/911taboo_german_subs_copyright_mute_audio.avi

And here is the german sub version with original audio:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/610872/911taboo_german_subs.avi

Maybe you can upload the original german version on archive.org and the muted version to YT and link there in the video description to archive.org and filehosting.org (Though I'm not sure how long the filehosting one will stay up.) Thanks, anyway.

And if the video has subtitles, it is not that important if the audio is muted, maybe the english versions could use subtitles, too.

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Oct 22 16 7:20 AM

I uploaded the German version to archive.org. I tried to upload the partially muted version to Youtube. No copyright issues or blocks in any countries came up. However when I tried to view it through a German proxy it still came up blocked: 'Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from UMG, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA.' A few minutes later a 'blocked in certain countries' flag came up on the Video Manager, and when I clicked on the block description it just says 'copyrighted content was found in your video' without specifying any time segments. Can you either mute the whole track, or better extend the mute sections to cover the entirety of the claimed copyrighted tracks? (or both if you don't mind, just in case the latter still doesn't work) I'll add the archive.org links to the English description, and to the German one once we get a viewable version up.

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Northbert

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Oct 22 16 11:51 AM

Where I live in Austria the partially muted video is playable, but with a German proxy it won't play as you noticed.

Here I muted even more of the songs in question:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/611780/911taboo_german_subs_copyright_mute_audio_v2.avi

And here I muted everything except the first 5 mins or so if the v2 version also won't work:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/611782/911taboo_german_subs_5min_audio.avi

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Oct 23 16 10:06 AM

I uploaded the new partially muted version and there is no regular Youtube block but but I'm getting a long 'code'-type message saying 'video not found/access denied' and on another one I got a 'playback error' message. Here is link: watch?v=_huGYMsrYVw     Not sure what proxy you were using (I used german-proxy.de). I don't think it was ever blocked in Austria, only Germany. Can you check on your end to see if it's viewable via German proxy?

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Northbert

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Oct 24 16 1:33 AM

Yeah, with your german-proxy.de I also get the error message, but I think this is due to this particular proxy. I used the Chrome-Addon "Zenmate" (Free Trial) and configured it so it would appear my location is Germany and the new 911 Taboo version with the partially muted audio is playable.

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psmith85

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Oct 24 16 5:56 AM

Ok great. If you have any other ways of testing it let me know, and I'll try some other methods on my end. I'm still worried there might be a problem with it because on two different proxy sites I tried it didn't work. If there's anything you find odd about the wording, spelling/grammar issues, etc., let me know. If there are any German-language channels you think the video would be better suited for, I could link to that in the description.

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Oct 24 16 7:13 AM

I will try later today to ask on the biggest imageboard of Germany to try to klick the link. Its called krautchan.net and it is something like the German 4chan.

Yeah, some proxies will fuck up the webpage / use another flash player than YT, etc... Anyway, I will report back.

And, by the way, your German (used in description of YT-video and so on) is actually pretty good. :)

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